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Welcome to Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

Today I have a fun, funny, entertaining, interesting interview

with actor Ben Schwartz, who is working a lot these days, which is good because he's good and funny

and entertaining and a good podcast guest as well. He's one of the stars of After Party. That's a new Apple TV show,

plus he's in a Netflix show, plus he's the voice of Sonic the Hedgehog, so he's going to be in

movie theaters all across the country this spring. It's very smart, very insightful about how Hollywood

works in the age of streaming, about how to break into Hollywood, how he used digital and

specifically YouTube to do that in its early days to launch his own career. I was very entertained by

this conversation. I think you

will be as well. But first, last week I told you to come back to the Jeff Zucker, CNN Warner

Media Story. And we're going to do that right now. I brought in Pucks, Dylan Byers, who loves

writing and reporting about the machinations inside big TV networks and who used to work at CNN himself.

We talked about what really happened last week

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