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What’s News in Earnings: Oil Companies See Mixed Fortunes Under Trump

WSJ What’s News

The Wall Street Journal

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4.14.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Bonus Episode for Feb. 19. President Trump wants to slash regulations to help big energy companies. But he also wants to see the price of crude oil fall, an unwelcome prospect for companies such as Exxon and Chevron. In their latest quarterly earnings reports oil giants watched their annual profits dip as a result of anemic natural-gas prices and slimmer margins in their refining operations. Now, many are trying to prepare for far less favorable market conditions and more strategy shifts ahead.  Chip Cutter hosts this special bonus episode of What's News in Earnings, where we dig into companies’ earnings reports and analyst calls to find out what’s going on under the hood of the American economy. Sign up for the WSJ's free Markets A.M. newsletter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

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0:18.3

Hey listeners, it's Wednesday, February 19th. I'm Chip Cutter for the Wall Street Journal,

0:22.4

and this is what's news and earnings, our look at the broad themes that stood out in the latest

0:26.3

earnings season. Today, we're focusing on the energy industry. Oil giants have already watched

0:31.1

their annual profits dip as a result of low natural gas prices and lower margins in their oil

0:35.7

refining businesses, and now many are trying to

0:38.2

prepare for far less favorable market conditions ahead, with some big strategy shifts coming, too.

0:49.8

President Trump is looking to slash regulations to help big energy companies, but he also wants to see the price of crude oil fall and unwelcome prospect for companies such as Exxon and Chevron. How are they responding? Colin Eaton writes about the largest oil companies and global energy issues in the Wall Street Journal's Houston Bureau. He joins us now. Hi, Colin. Colin, you've been sifting through the earnings reports of big oil companies

1:11.5

like Exxon, Chevron, and others over the past few weeks. What's the biggest trend that jumps out at you?

1:17.0

So if you take a look at just the top 10 U.S. oil and gas companies from Chevron and Exxon down to Devin,

1:24.1

collectively they brought in about $17.5 billion in net income in the fourth quarter.

1:31.2

That sounds like a lot of money, and it is. But actually, it's the lowest amount of money they've

1:35.7

earned altogether since late 2021. Now, they had been riding high for about three years.

1:42.2

Three years ago, you recall Russia invaded Ukraine. Energy prices

1:45.9

went through the roof. Post-COVID oil demands started to shoot up. Oil companies started

1:50.9

making money again, and they started to shell out record sums of money to shareholders via

1:56.7

dividends and stock buybacks. Fast forward to where we are now.

2:03.1

Oil and gas prices have come back down to earth.

2:04.6

Their earnings have followed.

2:06.4

Natural gas prices have been pretty weak.

2:13.8

Refinery margins have tightened a lot since gasoline prices were at a record $5 a gallon nationally in the summer of 2022.

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