Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joel Waldman.

What's up, Best Yes Nation, and welcome to another exciting

episode of Surviving the Survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guess in all of true crime and a dynamic panel today for sure.

And let me just run away and let them handle the show and I'll tell you why.

The last time we did the

Karen Reed case they hate mail can the CEO he's saying why are you saying that

but the hate mail came the tweets came the I'm getting tweets before this show even started, but that's the whole reason we're doing the show. As the old expression goes, don't shoot the messenger. Today, in addition to covering the case and there was a hearing this morning and

Melanie Little is going to help us break that down because she's the only one for

full disclosure that I know of who watched the entire thing fully.

I had a couple of meetings this morning and tried to catch up on it.

So we're going to get to that in a moment.

But for those who do not know, this is quite the case, a circus of a case, and it is incredibly polarizing.

Karen Reed is the girlfriend of late Boston police officer John O'Keefe.

She's been accused of backing over John O'Keefe in Kent, Massachusetts and

leaving him to die on a snowy evening in January 2022 as a blizzard

bared down on Canton Mass. She however says she wasn't even there when it happened and that she is in fact

being framed. But one of the questions I have today that is obviously a defense that is going to turn some heads, but it has done a lot more than that.

It has got parts of Massachusetts split in two and other people in the nation who are following this case.

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