What’s happening at the border? Part 2 (with Michael Debruhl)
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5 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 2 December 2023
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
The wave of immigrants and refugees at the border has filled the news, and will most likely influence the next presidential elections. But what’s really happening there? And how should American Christians make sense of this issue? In the second of two episodes on this topic, Curtis is joined by someone with a unique perspective, Michael Debruhl. Michael is a former agent and executive in the Border Patrol who felt disturbed at the widespread misconceptions on the topic. Upon leaving the agency, he started volunteering at the Sacred Heart Shelter, one of the main church based programs receiving migrants at the border.
Helpful resources on immigration and the border
Accurate information from The National Immigration Forum (a non-partisan effort at sensible and compassionate reform of our national approach to immigration)
What’s happening at the U.S.-Mexico border in 7 charts from The Pew Research Center
What’s behind the influx of migrants crossing the U.S. southern border? from PBS NewsHour
Public database from the US Customs and Border Protection (the main federal agency overseeing the border)
DONATE to the Sacred Heart Shelter (Casa del Sagrado Corazón) - the shelter directed by guest Michael Debruhl
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The Welcome to the Good Faith Podcast |
| 0:18.9 | podcast. I'm your host Curtis Chang. |
| 0:21.2 | And the Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming |
| 0:23.6 | Babel and it's where followers of Jesus help each other make sense of the world. |
| 0:28.8 | And one thing that is happening in our American political world is the politicization of the border. |
| 0:36.3 | If you are following the political news, you will find that more and more news stories and |
| 0:41.4 | politicians are capitalizing on the issue of what is happening |
| 0:46.2 | in immigration, especially at the border. It's happening now and I predict it's |
| 0:50.8 | going to intensify in the 2024 election season. |
| 0:55.0 | And this is why I especially wanted to help our listeners to make sense of this issue correctly, |
| 1:02.0 | with as much biblical as well as factual information |
| 1:07.0 | because there's a tremendous amount of distortion |
| 1:10.0 | that is happening on the issue of what is actually happening on the border. |
| 1:14.4 | This is an issue that's very dear to my heart. I am an immigrant myself. I |
| 1:18.8 | immigrated this country when I was three years old so I know the great |
| 1:22.2 | blessings of this country and I know also how devastating |
| 1:25.0 | is to not experience welcome in this country. So it is important to me, I think it's important to |
| 1:30.9 | Christians. If you are at all familiar with your Bible |
| 1:33.9 | the Old Testament is just filled constantly with this injunction to take care of the |
| 1:39.2 | alien the stranger and the foreigner in your midst. |
| 1:43.5 | In the biblical vision, we are told to understand |
| 1:46.5 | that how we embody the welcoming presence of God |
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