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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics, life, and the Trump presidency.

I am delighted to be joined today by Bridget Fettersy, who is a columnist, a much-loved columnist for the Spectators' US edition, and also host of The Dumpster Fire on YouTube and a podcast called Walkins Welcome.

Now, Bridget, you have an excellent, albeit quite gloomy, column this week,

about how you won't vote or you'll refuse to vote in this election

because you say if Trump wins, America's going to burn. If he doesn't win, America's

still going to burn. And it's fair to say you have a fairly pessimistic outlook on what's going

to happen in America. And in fact, this is a column that sort of echoes another very good column

you did a year ago, which was about the, as you

call them, politically homeless in America and how you represent actually quite a large percentage

of the American electorate who just don't feel that either side suits them. They don't feel

part of the red-blue binary, and they feel increasingly depressed

about what's going on in America. Tell us a little bit about what you're saying.

I've always just felt like I'm the canary in the coal mine. Like if there's somebody like myself

who feels like they came, they were always liberal most of my life,

considered, voted Democrat my whole life, never even considered voting any other way.

And if I feel I've been pushed out of the party into the center,

and I don't, I've never been able to really get on board with the right.

Just because writing for Playboy, I was so consistently attacked by the, the right for my, you know, feminist views or views about sexuality that were destroying America.

So as much as I've been embraced by many on the right, I'm very distrustful of them.

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