A lot of immigrants are already struggling with so many things coming to this country, you

know, assimilating to so many different aspects of life.

They recognize that African Americans, black people in this country go through so much

that if they can at least avoid that struggle, they'll do as much as they can.

So in their mind, I guess that's kind of a coping mechanism for them to have a slightly

easier life if they could by distancing themselves.

This is Deaf, Sex, and Money.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

I'm Anna Sale.

Afe Yellowduke is a producer here at the show.

I think people see my name a lot and they're like, that's, where's that person from?

Here's the answer.

My mom was from Haiti and my dad is from Nigeria.

Afe's parents both immigrated as adults and met in the US.

And earlier this year, Afe and I started talking together about the kinds of conversations

she was having within her family about what was happening in 2020 in the US, especially

after George Floyd was killed by police.

I really just wanted to like make sure we were all doing okay.

But also, I knew I was upset and had my own opinions and wanted to kind of get a sense

of what we were all thinking about in this moment.

And I guess I was also having these conversations with other friends of mine who come from immigrant

families.

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