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If the rest of the economic aid, liquidity, any kind of aid flows to the Taliban government, become impossible,

then the international community will simply be lurching from one peak of a humanitarian crisis to another.

You cannot run an economy on the hands out of Penicillin and peanut butter.

Now, the international community is only comfortable with the humanitarian aid,

because it can politically justify it to the US Congress, to parliament within the European Union,

as it going to the Afghan people, as not punishing the Afghan people for the crimes and authoritarianism of the Taliban regime.

But the reality is that if this remains the entire structure of the economic situation in Afghanistan,

then it will be in a constant crisis, because the economy itself will be in a constant crisis.

It will be constant dependence on the flow of international humanitarian aid without the capacity to break out of that.

But because of terrorism issues mostly, because of women rights, human rights, political pluralism, authoritarian issues, versus political pluralism,

and domestic political pressures, the rest of the economic aid remains tied up and really goes beyond simply the matter of recognition or not of the Taliban regime.

Ambrice Klem, and this is the Lawfare Podcast Wednesday October 13, 2021.

I sat down with Vonda Felback Brown, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Lawfare's own Scott Ar Anderson.

We discussed the current situation in Afghanistan and covered a range of issues, including the Taliban government's formation since the US withdrawal,

the current humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan, and the international community's response. It's the Lawfare Podcast October 13, what's going on in Afghanistan?

Let's jump right in Vonda. I want to start with you. What does the Taliban's interim government look like at the moment?

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