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What's College Without A Campus? Plus Ziwe Makes Things Awkward

It's Been a Minute

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🗓️ 17 July 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Colleges and universities are getting ready for a new year, but like everything else, coronavirus is complicating everything. Some are closing campus and moving online, others plan to bring students back with social distancing. Sam checks in with Tressie McMillan Cottom, associate professor at UNC-Chapel Hill and author of Lower Ed: The Troubling Rise of For-Profit Colleges in the New Economy, about the state of higher education and why not all colleges are created equal when it comes to prioritizing health over business. Then he chats with comedian and Desus and Mero writer Ziwe Fumudoh, whose recent interviews with white celebrities like Alison Roman and Rose McGowan have generated a lot of social media buzz for her frank questions about race. They talk about the art of the interview and her comfort with discomfort.

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0:00.0

Hey y'all, this is Sam's Aunt Betty. This week on the show, is college field college without a campus?

0:08.0

A check in on higher air. Alright, let's start the show!

0:14.0

Hey y'all, from NPR, I'm Sam Sanders. It's been a minute. This week on the show, we're going to college.

0:20.0

I know right now most students are on summer vacation, but there are big questions about whether the fall semester will happen in person later this year.

0:28.0

So many colleges and government leaders and public health officials are saying so many different things about all of this.

0:34.0

Even the Trump administration is going back and forth. Just this week, they backtracked on a decision to force international students out of the country if they couldn't take classes in person in the fall.

0:45.0

This episode, we're going to see what students and a professor are hoping for in the next school year.

0:51.0

And to be clear here listeners, we are only talking about higher ed right now. K through 12 is its own mess, and we can't do it all in one episode.

0:59.0

You'll have to wait for another episode on that one, but we will talk about that. Rest assured.

1:04.0

Alright, let's begin. We asked college and university students to tell us what they're going through right now.

1:09.0

What they want for the fall semester, what they're afraid of. Turns out a lot of them still have a lot of questions.

1:16.0

Hi, my name is Demy Trinazbaid. I'm a recent graduate of the University of Wyoming and still plan on attending graduate school this fall.

1:24.0

My name is Kevin Lopez, and I'm a second year law student at the University of Florida College of Law.

1:30.0

Hi Sam, my name is Paige and I go to Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

1:34.0

Our current plan is to do hybrid courses, which is a mix of in-person online.

1:39.0

And my biggest fear is that I'm going to bring home COVID-19 to my boyfriend who I live with.

1:44.0

Is this the right way to start graduate school online? Will I make meaningful connections?

1:49.0

I chose to stay home, and it was a tough decision to make because I really wanted to be back on campus.

1:57.0

My name is Lea McBain. I am a senior at NYU, and I'm the general manager of WNYU, the University Student Run Radio Station.

2:08.0

For me, the station was a safe place to be queer and trans even when the rest of the university definitely wasn't.

2:16.0

It's really upsetting to me that freshmen won't be able to stumble on it on their way to the dining hall.

2:22.0

And I am just worried that they won't find their people.

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