What's behind our soaring military budget with journalist Andrew Cockburn
The Marianne Williamson Podcast
Marianne Williamson
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2022
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
According to journalist Andrew Cockburn in his latest book, The Spoils of War: Power, Profit and the American War Machine, our bloated $778 billion defense budget doesn't necessarily provide for our safety. Cockburn, the Washington editor of Harper's, has spent decades covering the Pentagon and defense industry and says money and power - not legitimate security concerns - is what drives our ballooning military budget.
Our podcast conversation details how we got here. According to Cockburn, "The US defense complex is best thought of not as an organization, but as a living, insatiable, creature, dedicated only to its own defense and power."
With our government so held hostage by the defense industry, it's we the people who are going to have to change that.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. |
| 0:01.0 | This is the Mary M. Williamson podcast, and this is Mary M. Williamson. |
| 0:05.5 | Thank you so much for joining me today. |
| 0:08.7 | We're here to talk about war and peace. |
| 0:11.8 | It was around 2000 that I first heard former congressman Dennis Kucinich talk about a |
| 0:17.9 | department of peace and why one was necessary as an executive level cabinet position in |
| 0:27.1 | the executive branch of the U.S. government. |
| 0:29.0 | I was completely excited by it because it was completely aligned with the relationship |
| 0:34.1 | that I perceived between sickness and health. |
| 0:37.3 | You can't just wait till you get sick, don't take care of your body, don't take care |
| 0:41.1 | of exercise, don't take care of diet, then just wait when sickness almost inevitably arises |
| 0:47.6 | and then apply the old alopathic model of healing, which is to then through external remedies |
| 0:53.4 | seek to eradicate or suppress the physical symptoms. |
| 0:58.1 | If that's all you do, because the symptoms were caused by something, if all you do is |
| 1:03.0 | seek to eradicate or suppress a symptom, then frequently the symptom will simply end up |
| 1:09.0 | morphing into another one. |
| 1:11.4 | So in terms of healing the physical body, the whole notion of integrative health came |
| 1:16.5 | on to the scene towards the end of the last century. |
| 1:19.0 | Everybody was very excited, body, mind, and spirit. |
| 1:22.5 | And this included the notion of preventative health. |
| 1:25.5 | It included the notion of proactively cultivating health, not just waiting till you get sick, |
| 1:31.4 | but cultivating health. |
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