Brian Laird on WNYC, I want to acknowledge something happening in the presidential campaign

that in other years might have been a political knockout punch this year, who knows.

But Donald Trump's former chief of staff and Homeland Security Secretary, General John Kelly,

has decided to go public to say on tape that he thinks Trump would try to govern like a fascist for

sure. That's part of the quote. We're going to play it, fascist for sure. And not just any fascist.

Kelly says Trump would praise Adolf Hitler in some of their conversations while in office.

Is your head exploding?

Kelly said these things in an interview with the New York Times.

Here he is on Trump's authoritarianism.

The former president is in the far right area.

He's certainly an authoritarian,

admires people who are dictators.

He has said that.

So he certainly falls into the general definition of a fascist for sure. Donald Trump's former chief of staff and Homeland Security Secretary of

all things, General John Kelly, who decided he needed to break his silence about things like those before the election,

he told them to the New York Times. We'll play what Kelly said about Trump and Hitler in a few

minutes, but all this from someone who Trump himself had appointed first as Homeland Security

Secretary and then trusted enough to elevate him to chief of staff.

Of course, now Trump is trying to discredit him.

And, of course, he joins a long list of former high-ranking Trump officials,

starting with Vice President Mike Pence, who now say Trump is unfit to serve.

With that as prelude, Dana Milbank is here, the Washington Post columnist and former White House correspondent

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