What’s About to Happen with COVID-19 (with Larry Brilliant)

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Lemonada Media

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4.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Andy catches up with the aptly-named Dr. Larry Brilliant, who has spent his life working to eradicate deadly diseases. They discuss why eradication of COVID is not possible, what a long-term COVID plan should include, what future variants may look like, and what vaccine innovations he wants to see and why. Plus, how Delta is similar to the fictional virus Larry helped dream up for the movie Contagion. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Larry @larrybrilliant on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone.   Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Here’s more on Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s ban on virtually all vaccine mandates: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/us/texas-governor-covid-vaccine-mandates.html Read the article Larry co-wrote called “The Forever Virus”: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2021-06-08/coronavirus-strategy-forever-virus Larry advised Seth MacFarlane on the science for this Family Guy vaccine PSA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ0NgeMHOyQ Check out the PBS series Larry mentions called “Extra Life”: https://www.pbs.org/show/extra-life-short-history-living-longer/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's CVS Health, they know the women's physical, mental, and sexual health matters.
0:05.0	That's why they're offering new women's health services available nationwide seven days a week.
0:09.0	From heart health, blood pressure, and cholesterol screenings available at miniclinic locations,
0:14.0	to virtual birth control consultations and visits with a board certified provider,
0:18.0	women's health is it an afterthought. It matters.
0:21.0	It's CVS Health. Health here happens together. Learn more at CVSHealth.com.
0:27.0	Lemonada.
0:31.0	Is it safe to say the more you've learned about SARS-CoV-2, the more problematic you think it is?
0:42.0	Yes.
1:01.0	Welcome to the bubble. This is Andy Slavitt, your host.
1:06.0	A really gripping conversation today, which you just heard an excerpt of with Larry Brilliant.
1:13.0	Larry Brilliant may be the most definitive mind, the most experienced person at pandemics, and how they end.
1:23.0	We've had some great people on this podcast have lots of experience,
1:28.0	but a few of any of them have participated in the ending and the eradication of a disease as Larry has famously with smallpox.
1:39.0	He might also know him from the movie Contagion, which he advised on.
1:45.0	And it's interesting, the clip I just played, that the man who spent his life working on eradicating horrible diseases like smallpox and polio,
1:57.0	and knows what a bad virus looks like, tells us that the more he learns about SARS-CoV-2, the more concerned he gets.
2:06.0	And you're going to hear why, and it's fact-based, and he tells us some astounding things, including why he believes SARS-CoV-2 is the fastest spreading virus in mankind.
2:21.0	Maybe all of history, but certainly in memory, and this may surprise you if you've heard, like I have, and my gutters have,
2:29.0	that the measles spreads at a rate that's three times as fast as even Delta.
2:35.0	But when you hear his explanation, I think like you the light bulb will go off, and the implications of that are mind-boggling.
2:44.0	So notwithstanding the fact that we have, I think, are seeing a law and a reduction in cases here in the US, and indeed around the world,
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