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Welcome to Angry Planet. Hello and welcome to angry planet. I am Jason Fields. Matthew Galt is under the

weather which is ironic because that's what we'll be talking about today. As I record this, it's a balmy 60 degree day in the middle of February in Washington, D.C.

And that's just not right. To talk to me today about what it means for all of us, I'm joined by Richard

Bussellato and I'm pronouncing that by the way properly.

Very good for an American. You get nine out of town there.

And David Koh, they are the authors of the unsustainable truth, how investing for the future is

destroying the planet and what to do about it.

Well, what does that mean?

Which of you guys wants to start?

Oh, bringing straight on the...

Yeah, basically if you boil it down to its smallest essence is...

We are running out of capacity on this planet to keep on doing what we've been doing for quite a long time and the reason we are doing so is that we've extracted too much. And part of that is that all investments we do requires more of these resources to be used.

There are no shortcuts, even if you're doing good with your investments, you still require resources to get them off the ground and become productive.

So we find ourselves more or less, I think,

in a situation now when we are running out

of this capacity on the planet.

And to us, it's fairly clear that ultimately a problem caused by too much investment cannot really

get resolved by investing as further through this transition.

We need to look at a different approach of how to safeguard the planet as we know it.

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