What Resilience Really Looks Like
ShrinkChicks
Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT
5 • 717 Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen are joined by a very special guest, Carol DeMarco, a longtime friend, mentor, and one of the first people to believe in them when they opened The Therapy Group back in 2014. Carol is a dynamic speaker with more than 30 years of experience in counseling, education, and HR. Through her signature Pearls of Wisdom approach, she helps people strengthen their mindset, relationships, and emotional resilience (the hidden gem of self-care).
Carol shares the powerful life experiences that shaped her upcoming book, POW LISTEN UP!: Pearls of Wisdom to Power Your Life, from personal loss and illness to rediscovering purpose through helping others. She offers a preview of her favorite “POWs,” including how to grow gratitude, manage emotions in the middle of a storm, and reframe resilience as something you can learn, not something you’re born with.
To connect with Carol or book her for keynotes, workshops, or motivational speaking, visit powlistenup.com or follow @powlistenup on Instagram.
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| 0:00.0 | The spiral that we put ourselves in, either negative or positive, is within our control. |
| 0:09.9 | We don't feel it is, but it really is. |
| 0:13.3 | And you see what you're looking for is a great reminder of that spiral. |
| 0:18.0 | What kind of spiral do you want to be in? |
| 0:24.5 | Because these mindset habits and these pals only work if you have made the choice to change. |
| 0:41.4 | Welcome back to another episode of shrink chicks. |
| 0:46.6 | Take a seat on our virtual therapy couch and get ready to learn all about, well, you. |
| 0:47.7 | I'm Emily Beirley. |
| 0:48.9 | And I'm Jennifer Chakin. |
| 0:53.0 | And we're both licensed, marriage and family therapist and relationship experts. We're the owners and founders of the |
| 0:54.8 | therapy group, a nationwide psychotherapy practice with down-to-earth therapists just like us. |
| 1:00.5 | Your session is starting, so get ready to know yourself and grow yourself. |
| 1:07.5 | As a mama too, I can tell you, life gets busy, fast. |
| 1:12.1 | When I had my second baby, I quickly realized how important it was to have a carrier that I could put on myself. |
| 1:17.1 | Even with a wild six-year-older running around a house or a parking lot, I needed to be able to do it on my own. |
| 1:23.2 | That's what I love about the monarch carrier for maybe. |
| 1:25.9 | It's not only beautiful, but I can strap it on, |
| 1:28.5 | easily scoop up the baby, and still have my hands free from my older kid. That feels like a |
| 1:33.5 | total confidence boost. Maybe's mission really speaks to me. They want to change the story that moms |
| 1:38.0 | have to lose themselves in motherhood. Instead, they believe this is where you can find the very |
| 1:42.6 | best version of yourself. And honestly, that resonates because yes, we are caregivers, but we're also women with dreams, |
| 1:48.5 | goals, and identities beyond motherhood. |
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