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What Remains: What's Past is Prologue

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

A 1,500 year old skeleton is diagnosed with tuberculosis. A visit to a modern-day bone library. A fight over the future of ethical science. MORE ABOUT "WHAT REMAINS" Across the country, the remains of tens of thousands of human beings are held by museums and institutions. Scientists say they’ve helped lay the foundations of forensic science and unlocked the secrets of humanity’s shared past.  But these bones were also collected before informed consent was the gold standard for ethical study. 19th and 20th-century physicians and anthropologists took unclaimed bodies from poorhouses and hospitals, robbed graves, and looted Indigenous bones from sacred sites. Now, under pressure from activists and an evolving scientific community, these institutions are rethinking what to do with their unethically collected human remains.  Outside/In producer Felix Poon has informally gained a reputation as the podcast’s “death beat” correspondent. He’s visited a human decomposition facility (aka, “body farm”), reported on the growing trend of “green burial,” and explored the use of psychedelic mushrooms to help terminal cancer patients confront death. In this three-episode series from Outside/In, Felix takes us to Philadelphia, where the prestigious Penn Museum has promised to “respectfully repatriate” hundreds of skulls collected by 19th century physician Samuel George Morton, who used them to pursue pseudo-scientific theories of white supremacy. Those efforts have been met with support by some, and anger and distrust by others.  Along the way, Felix explores the long legacy of scientific racism, lingering questions over the 1985 MOVE bombing, and evolving ethics in the field of biological anthropology. Can the institutions that have long benefited from these remains be trusted to give them up? And if so, who decides what happens next?    ADDITIONAL MATERIAL The Smithsonian’s ‘Bone Doctor’ scavenged thousands of body parts (Washington Post) Medical, scientific racism revealed in century-old plaque from Black man’s teeth (Science) America’s Biggest Museums Fail to Return Native American Human Remains (ProPublica) Read about Maria Pearson, the “Rosa Parks of NAGPRA” and how she sparked a movement. (Library of Congress Blogs) Read Olga Spekker’s paper on SPF15, “The first probable case with tuberculous meningitis from the Hun period of the Carpathian Basin.” Listen to our episode about so-called body farms, “Life and Death at a Human Decomposition Facility.”   You can find our full episode credits, listen to our back catalogue, and support Outside/In at our website: outsideinradio.org.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm

0:02.0

Felix and Felix you pitched us this idea I don't even know how long ago it was at this point

0:06.8

It was still cold outside so maybe winter time. Yeah, we are finally bringing this story to our listeners.

0:13.7

And it is a big two-part episode that starts next week.

0:17.7

But this week, Felix and I are giving you the prologue.

0:21.2

And this prologue starts in a small town in Hungary. A few years ago,

0:26.4

the town is getting ready to build part of a wastewater treatment plant and before they break

0:30.9

ground they hire archaeologists to make sure they're not going to disturb some long lost historic site.

0:37.0

So the archaeologists start digging, and they uncover a single grave.

0:46.0

Really it's just a pit in the ground.

0:49.0

There's evidence there used to be a casket in there,

0:52.0

but it's been so long all the wood has completely

0:56.2

decomposed.

0:58.6

They find a bronze earring, a buckle, parts of a necklace, a ceramic vessel, and a handful of bones. So all this stuff gets sent out to a lab. Researchers identify them as

1:18.7

belonging to an adult woman somewhere between the ages of 20 and 50.

1:24.2

And they determined that her grave dates back

1:26.2

about 1,500 years ago.

1:29.6

That is a long time ago.

1:31.4

Yeah, this is like fall of Rome era Attila the Hun times right the point is these

1:38.0

remains belong to the ancient world they're a window into Hungarian history.

1:43.0

And we'll never know what her name actually was.

1:47.0

But researchers, they call her SPF 15.

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