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What Remains: More MOVE remains found

Outside/In

NHPR

Science, Natural Sciences

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

After more MOVE remains were found at the Penn Museum last month, we got in touch with curator Rachel Watkins to find out what happened.

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Outside In producer Felix Poon.

0:03.4

I'm here with an update to our special mini-series, What Remains.

0:07.8

Just a few weeks after we finished our series, some big news broke.

0:12.1

The Penn Museum has discovered more human remains in its possession associated with the 1985 move bombing.

0:20.4

This is a news clip from NPR member. W.HYY's Peter Crimmons reported.

0:22.2

This is a news clip from NPR member station, W.HYY in Philadelphia.

0:26.3

Three years ago, after public protests, the Penn Museum returned what remains it had to the Africa family,

0:32.0

apologized, and promised to do an ongoing, comprehensive inventory of its holdings of human remains.

0:38.4

And now this week, more remains were discovered.

0:42.5

For those who listen to What Remains, this might sound like a bit of deja vu.

0:47.9

In the series, I reported that in 2021, the public learned the Penn Museum was holding the remains

0:53.6

of children who were murdered in the

0:55.6

1985 police bombing of the radical Black liberation group known as Move.

1:00.4

After public outcry, the Penn Museum said it returned, quote, all known move remains to the

1:06.0

Africa family, unquote.

1:08.0

This whole thing was a huge source of distrust in the museum, and critics were convinced

1:13.1

that the museum still had move remains in their possession. When I interviewed museum director

1:18.7

Chris Woods for the series, he denied this. Those remains remained here far, far, far too long,

1:25.7

and we returned all known move remains to the Africa family.

1:31.0

Move remains should not be in the museum, and, to our knowledge, they aren't.

1:36.6

So how is it that three years later, additional move remains were found in the museum?

1:46.0

I knew exactly who I wanted to talk to to get answers.

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