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What really won the trillion-dollar Supreme Court case | Neal Kumar Katyal

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πŸ—“οΈ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

In November 2025, Neal Kumar Katyal was asked to do what no US Supreme Court litigator had ever done: convince the justices to strike down a sitting president's signature initiative. After enlisting the help of four unlikely coaches β€” and one secret weapon he hasn't told anyone about until now β€” he walked into the courtroom ready for anything. What he discovered about winning and connecting might just change how you think about performing under pressure.



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0:00.0

You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day.

0:09.3

I'm your host, Elise Hugh.

0:11.5

Neil Kumar Cuttyall has argued 52 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, but his recent one may matter most.

0:18.6

He took on global tariffs.

0:20.0

I was hired to do what no lawyer had done in 237 years.

0:25.3

But he didn't just assemble a legal team to prepare for this case.

0:28.5

He tapped into unlikely teachers to explore all sides of winning against the odds.

0:34.2

I get to defend the Constitution of the United States.

0:36.9

I get to the son of immigrants

0:39.1

remind the country of what it's about. I get to defend my parents' vision of America.

0:45.4

In this talk, Neil takes us behind the scenes of what some have called the most important

0:49.9

Supreme Court decision in a century and makes the case that in an age of extraordinary technology,

0:56.8

the skill that matters most is the oldest one we have. That's coming up right after a short break.

1:15.8

And now our TED Talk of the day.

1:21.9

There's a mahogany podium at the Supreme Court of the United States.

1:32.6

One person died there, mid-argument, the stroke. Another collapsed there, dying soon thereafter.

1:40.6

That's the podium. It also happens to be where I practice law, the most powerful court on earth. Nine minds ready to attack, and you stand 10 feet away from them. There are no

1:48.4

prepared speeches in this court. Instead, 50 questions thrown at you in 30 minutes. I'm making

1:55.4

hundreds of decisions in real time. Every argument I choose to make, or not make,

2:03.2

every word, every pause, every tone,

2:07.8

there are no rewinds, flinch, and the justices pounce.

2:13.3

That's my courtroom, but each of you has something like that, a place in which words matter,

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