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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

What really happened to Iran's nuclear program? with Zohar Palti

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, Israel, Israel Podcast, Jonathan Freedland, Middle East, Jewish, Religion & Spirituality, Jews, Society & Culture

4.7 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes, discounts on merch and more: https://bit.ly/UnholyPatreon Social links, shop, YouTube channel and more: https://linktr.ee/unholypod The Israel–Iran war may be behind us, for now, but one of the most critical questions is only just beginning to surface: what really happened to Iran’s nuclear program? To begin unpacking that, Yonit spoke with someone uniquely positioned to offer insight: Zohar Palti, former Head of the Political-Military Bureau at Israel’s Ministry of Defense and a longtime senior official in the Mossad. With years of experience at the heart of Israel’s security establishment, Palti helps us explore what’s known, what’s rumored, and what may still be unfolding behind the scenes.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, it's Yonid. It's Wednesday, June 25th, 10 p.m. in Israel, 1030 p.m. in Tehran, 3 p.m. in Washington.

0:07.9

The current Israel-Iran war seems to be behind us, but an important debate only now beginning.

0:13.7

What really happened to Iran's nuclear program? I spoke today to someone uniquely positioned to answer that question or begin to answer it.

0:21.9

Zawr-Palti likes to say he grew up in Israel's intelligence community.

0:25.7

He essentially worked in the intelligence business for 40 years as the head of the Mossad

0:29.6

Intelligence Directorate and later as a top official in the Ministry of Defense.

0:33.9

Today, he is an Andrew Viterbi Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy in D.C.

0:39.1

I spoke to him earlier today.

0:45.0

So, thank you so much for talking to us today.

0:47.7

Pleasure to be with you, you know it?

0:49.0

We talk almost every day in the studio, but that's Hebrew. This is different.

0:52.5

Look, let's look at where we are right now.

0:55.0

Trump said we obliterated Iran's nuclear program. Netanyahu said Israel removed the existential

1:00.0

threat of a nuclear Iran. The New York Times is reporting that the U.S. initial damage report

1:04.3

says that the Iran nuclear program was set back by months and not obliterated. Where's the truth in all

1:10.5

this?

1:15.1

First of all, each one of them have his own beliefs, truth,

1:17.2

and I'm not in a position to judge,

1:18.9

not the President of the United States,

1:20.3

not the prime of Israel Israel, Israel, Israel, I'm a professional that grew up in the Israeli intelligence community,

1:24.9

and I know a bit, also the American intelligence community

1:28.4

for 40 years I was serving over there.

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