What Really Happened at OpenAI? (Robert Wright & Timothy B. Lee)
Robert Wright's Nonzero
Nonzero
4.7 • 618 Ratings
🗓️ 30 November 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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0:33 Bob and Tim seek Substack synergy 2:31 What was the OpenAI drama really about? 14:49 Viewing the drama through a (cynical) psychological lens 21:19 Were reports of a safety vs speed schism greatly exaggerated? 29:53 Larry Summers joins OpenAI’s board… time to panic? 40:21 Superintelligence, Sam Altman, and the singularity 44:53 Altman’s not so veiled ignorance 49:17 Overtime preview: superintelligence skepticism, the truth about effective altruism, self-driving car speed bumps, and more
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Timothy B. Lee (Full Stack Economics, Understanding AI). Recorded November 29, 2023.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. |
| 0:33.7 | Hi, Tim. |
| 0:35.6 | Hi, Bob. How's it going? |
| 0:37.3 | I can't complain. Let me introduce this. Hi, Bob. How's it going? I can't complain. |
| 0:39.6 | Let me introduce this. |
| 0:41.9 | I'm Robert Wright, publisher, Non-Zero newsletter. |
| 0:45.0 | This is the Non-Zero podcast, although I think it's also going to be available via your newsletter |
| 0:51.4 | because of a kind of collaboration thing we're experimenting with it we can talk |
| 0:55.3 | about uh your newsletters understanding AI you're Timothy B Lee and um we're uh going to every |
| 1:03.0 | every month or so uh do a podcast on AI and see how that goes because I have a very deep interest |
| 1:09.4 | in that subject um absolutely I'm a very deep interest in that subject. |
| 1:13.1 | Absolutely. I'm excited to try this out. |
| 1:20.6 | And then we'll, and the deal will be, you know, much of it will be publicly available, as is the case with all my, pretty much all my podcasts, the lion's share of it. |
| 1:25.7 | And then the whole thing will be available to paid subscribers of my newsletter and |
| 1:30.8 | paid subscribers of your newsletter. |
| 1:33.0 | And you've just gone paid, right? |
| 1:34.6 | That's a new thing. |
| 1:35.9 | Yes. |
| 1:36.3 | Last week, I started asking people to pay. |
| 1:39.3 | And, yeah, there'll be a mix of paid and free content going forward. |
| 1:43.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:45.5 | How's that going are you rich |
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