What Putin wants
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The Times
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🗓️ 7 March 2022
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
What is going through his mind? Where will this end? And would he press that button?
There's a view of Putin which says these are impossible questions to answer, which paints him as a mysterious, mercurial figure. But today, we take the other view: that for quite some time, the Russian president has told us exactly who he is. If only we'd been listening.
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| 0:00.0 | What's going through his mind? |
| 0:04.6 | Russian forces attacked the Zaprasia nuclear power plant, the largest in Europe. |
| 0:09.3 | Bombarded a large nuclear power station causing a fire. |
| 0:12.9 | Please help us. |
| 0:15.9 | Where will this end? |
| 0:20.7 | The military plan is going as planned and all the targets are being hit successfully. |
| 0:28.7 | And would he press that button? |
| 0:32.7 | Whoever would try to stop us should know that Russia's response will be immediate |
| 0:38.5 | and leave you to such consequences that you have never faced in your history. |
| 0:48.0 | The Saviro Putin, which says these are impossible questions to answer, |
| 0:52.1 | which paints him as a mysterious mercurial figure, the XKGB man, |
| 0:56.8 | always impossible to predict. |
| 0:59.6 | But today we take the other view. |
| 1:02.0 | But for quite some time Putin has told us exactly who he is. |
| 1:05.8 | If only we've been listening. |
| 1:07.6 | We've misread him countless times. |
| 1:10.2 | I think we've not wanted to see what's been there all along in a sense. |
| 1:15.7 | You're listening to stories of our times and the times and the Sunday times. |
| 1:18.6 | I'm David Aronovich. |
| 1:19.8 | Today, what Putin wants? |
| 1:28.5 | I'm Matthew Campbell. |
| 1:29.8 | I'm the foreign features editor at the Sunday Times. |
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