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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

What Putin Wants

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Russia’s newly-belligerent stance has rocked the democratic West on its heels, from the annexation of the Crimea to the sponsoring of extremist digital disinformation to – almost certainly – the stacking of elections in the US and UK. And it all stems from the paranoid, Machiavellian, espionage-steeped mindset of one man: Vladimir Putin.  On this edition, Arthur talks to exiled journalists, foreign correspondents including Luke Harding of The Guardian and Russia analysts to unpick the question that baffles even Russians themselves: What does Putin want? Пожалуйста, наслаждайтесь нашим подкастом. Спасибо! “There was no liberal Putin. There was no ‘white album’.” – LUKE HARDING “Russia is the world champion at national suicide. It’s a deeply, deeply self-destructive country.” – PETER POMERANTSEV “Putin doesn’t even see Ukraine as a country… They think, this was always ours, what is the US doing interfering?” – ARTYOM LISS “The plan is to make Russia great again… Neither London nor Washington nor Paris has come up with an adequate way to deal with him.” – LUKE HARDING Want to support us, get episodes early and extra content? Support us on Patreon and back us from just £3 per month now. DOOMSDAY WATCH был написан и представлен Артуром Снеллом, а продюсером - Робином Либерном - с ассистентом продюсера Джейкоба Арчболда. Мелодия и оригинальная музыка написаны Полом Хартноллом. Редактор группы - Эндрю Харрисон. DOOMSDAY WATCH - это продукция Podmasters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thank you for your support.

0:09.0

Hello, Russia!

0:17.0

I'm Arthur Snell, and that was Vladimir Putin speaking in Red Square at a concert in

0:29.6

honor of what he calls Crimea's reunification.

0:33.6

That's what we call Russia's invasion and occupation of a sovereign country, Ukraine.

0:40.6

We're in a period of extreme tension between Russia and the West after poisonings, assassinations,

0:47.6

sanctions, Olympic doping scandals, you name it.

0:50.6

Aren't we supposed to have something called NATO that exists to stop Russia from doing

0:54.6

these sorts of things?

0:55.6

Well, what's it doing?

0:57.6

Isn't it working?

0:59.6

As the Kremlin's brinkmanship continues to upend the global order, you end up wondering,

1:06.6

just where will this end?

1:08.6

This is Doomsday Watch.

1:11.6

What Putin wants.

1:15.6

It's sort of about Russia's fear whenever it's about, like, that way.

1:18.6

You know, training is the worst possible thing you can do.

1:22.6

You know, there was no level of Putin, but there was no kind of white helmet.

1:25.6

There ain't nobody left.

1:28.6

He comes to him as his personal therapist.

1:32.6

As their strategy in Japan is a little bit, but also a very, very strong emotion about Russia.

1:44.6

I wanted to find out just how Russia had become what it is today.

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