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What ousted CDC director Monarez revealed about RFK Jr. during a Senate hearing

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🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Former CDC Director Dr. Susan Monarez gave her first detailed account of her high-profile firing during a Senate hearing. Monarez was ousted less than a month into the job, making her the shortest-lived director in the agency’s history. Questions about the future of vaccine policy were front and center during the hearing. Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins reports. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Former CDC director Susan Menares gave her first detailed account of her high-profile firing during a Senate hearing today.

0:08.4

Menares was ousted less than a month into the job, making her the shortest-lived director in the agency's history.

0:15.2

Two other top officials resigned in protest, including the CDC's then-Chief medical officer who testified alongside

0:22.1

Manares today. Questions about the future of vaccine policy were front and center. Congressional

0:27.4

correspondent Lisa Desjardin has our report. A remarkable hearing. I could have kept the office,

0:34.4

the title, but I would have lost the one thing that cannot be replaced,

0:39.6

my integrity. Two recent Trump CDC officials, former director Susan Monares, and former chief

0:45.7

medical officer Deborah Howley, raising sharp questions about sitting cabinet secretary and their

0:51.3

former boss, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy,

0:55.4

Jr.

0:56.1

Secretary Kennedy censored CDC science, politicized its processes, and stripped leaders of

1:02.2

independence.

1:03.7

I could not, and good conscience, remain under those conditions.

1:07.7

How we resigned after Monares was fired last month, that firing and its relationship

1:13.3

to vaccine policy were the key foci today. Monarez told senators that days before her firing,

1:20.1

Kennedy gave her orders regarding ASIP, the key vaccine advisory board he had just replaced.

1:25.9

He directed me to commit in advance to approving every

1:30.2

ACIP recommendation regardless of the scientific evidence. He also directed me to dismiss

1:40.2

career officials responsible for vaccine policy without cause. I told the secretary that if he

1:46.7

believed he could not trust me, he could fire me. You had an employee. A far cry from Secretary

1:52.0

Kennedy's account in a hearing earlier this month. I told her that she had to resign because I asked

1:57.6

her, are you a trustworthy person? And she said no.

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