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What Operation Pied Piper taught us about family separations

Retropod

The Washington Post

History, Kids & Family, Education For Kids

4.5670 Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2018

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Millions of British children were evacuated from London and other cities to escape the horrors of war. But the family separations seemed to impart long-term trauma that was in many cases as severe as if they had stayed behind and faced the bombs.

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Hey, history lovers.

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I'm Mike Rosenwald with Retropod.

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A show about the past.

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One Friday in June of 1940, in a southeastern village in England called Lee-on-C, the area's

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children brought home notes from school. The notes said that all children would be evacuated

0:28.6

from the village that weekend. The schools would shut down immediately. One of those children

0:35.2

to be evacuated was named Pam Hobbs, and almost 80 years later she can still remember the day the note came home.

0:43.7

Hobbs was 10 years old at the time. She packed her belongings into burlap sandbags. Then she and her sister were placed on a train and sent away to the English countryside.

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Hobbs wouldn't see her parents again for two years.

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The sisters were just two of the millions of children in England

1:03.5

who were evacuated from cities and towns during World War II.

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The mass evacuations, called Operation Pied Piper, were part of a plan by the

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U.K. government to keep children safe from German air raids while their parents stayed behind

1:19.6

to help with war efforts. The move started in earnest in 1939, when more than 3 million children were removed from London and other cities in the first four days of evacuations alone.

1:35.5

There, the children were safer from the German bombings during the Blitz that would ultimately claim the lives of around 40,000 British civilians, nearly half of whom lived in London.

1:49.3

But the well-intentioned operation had an unexpected and terrible side effect.

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The separations left the children with long-term trauma that was in many cases as severe as if they had stayed behind and faced the bombs.

2:08.4

In her memoir, Pam Hobbs remembers it as her first time knowing what it was like to feel unwanted.

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She and her sister were ultimately deposited

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