It's the Bryan Lair show on WNYC, good morning again everyone.

We are over a year out now from the overturning of Roe vs Wade, right?

And as more states enact abortion restrictions and bans, we're still finding out what that

means for people who still seek out abortions in those places.

Here is an extreme and frightening example.

Last month, a 19-year-old named Celeste Burgess was sentenced to 90 days in jail after

she pleaded guilty to concealing or abandoning a dead body.

This happened after she had a self-managed medicated abortion, a medication abortion.

Andrea Gonzalez Ramirez is covering this story.

She's a senior writer at the CUT, which is part of New York Magazine and has written

and reported on abortion across the U.S. and is going to take us through what this case

is and what the implications for others might be.

Andrea, thanks so much for coming on the show.

Welcome to WNYC.

Thank you for having me, Brian.

So can you give us some of the basics first of what happened.

I see that both Celeste and her mother, Jessica, were originally charged back in April of

2022, which would have been before the DOBS decision.

So what happened in April of 2022?

Yes.

So this case took place before Roe was overturned.

So in late April, policing the town of Norfolk never asked, I investigated Jessica, who

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