All right, we are back here on the floor at Consensus Hong Kong.

I'm Sam Ewan, alongside Will Foxley.

Joining us right now, Jason Atkins, chief commercial officer at the global trading firm

and liquidity provider, Oroz.

Jason, great to see you again. Thank you for having me again. Yeah, first of all, thank you for being a partner to consensus, now a second year in a row. It's been really wonderful having you guys here. What's your sense of the show, the vibes, and the feeling around Hong Kong specifically? I mean, it's consensus in Hong Kong last year was incredible. A lot of anxiety from a lot of people about this year because market conditions,

but honestly it's exceeded expectations already today.

Fantastic setup, fantastic sponsors, I think, around the place.

Last year was so good that it encouraged us to sponsor main stage

and make sure that our presence in the city was known.

Hong Kong's a very close part of my heart.

I've been here 13 years, and our firm has over 50 staff now in the city

and really supportive of what Hong Kong is doing to embrace the digital asset industry.

Jason, your panel today is titled Our Market Makers Evil.

In like 30 seconds, what's the answer?

Yes or no?

The answer is no.

Market makers are not evil.

I think to flip the script a little bit,

if you look at a recent event, October the 10th,

where a lot of market dislocation and volatility happened,

a lot of people took away from that that,

oh, market makers caused it, or market makers are evil.

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