Our world is built with stories.

Sometimes these stories cause suffering by pulling us apart from ourselves and each other.

The liturgist podcast helps people love more and suffer less by pulling apart the stories that pull us apart.

So I was thinking earlier today about the nature of story and how story has a beginning and an ending.

And where you begin a story matters and the story matters.

And anything outside of those walls outside of that framework, it doesn't really matter much to us when we're consuming a story.

We don't usually go home worrying about what became of sleeping beauty in her prints after the wedding or whatever.

You know, like we don't think too much about how they die or what happens after the credits roll.

Usually how the star quarterbacks career ended, you know, after everybody hoisted them up on their shoulders.

And as consumers of story, we just sort of stop where it ends and we move on.

And I was kind of thinking of that in relationship to religion and belief and deconstruction or reconstruction.

And one of the things that we get asked to talk about a lot at the liturgists and we get a lot of questions around this is what now, right?

Okay, you've gone through this whole story of like I pulled apart the hermeneutics of this issue about how all are about why why God doesn't actually hate gay people or you know, like what did the issue we've gone through this whole journey of moving past this really harmful story.

Oh, the dragon has been slain, you know, the hero has returned home.

And when you finally get to this moment and you.

And then here you are, right? It's like this story. Okay, that's that's done. I'm past that now.

Now what are we doing? Exactly. We're still here. I'm still me. There's still all this shit in my life.

So what am I supposed to do now? And am I supposed to reconstruct some new thing? Am I supposed to find some other system or orthodoxy to belong to?

And that's that's what we're going to talk about today. And I'm joined here on the call by Dr. Hiller McBride, William Matthews and Kevin Garcia.

Yeah. And Kevin, yeah, maybe welcome. First of all, Kevin, love when you get to be on the show.

It's a pleasure. I did. Yes. I just wanted to make sure I heard the crap. I'm so sorry. No. Don't ever apologize for me. I just wanted to make sure I heard a meow.

Yeah, you're not going crazy. It's not that you've been alone for too long. You heard that. Is that indeed? Is that one of those Cardi B things? You know, like she has her little signature sounds that she or signature sound.

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