There was an understanding in 2017 that we could resist the abnormal, right?

We could resist Donald Trump.

And that if that was successful, politics might snap back, right?

You would have a Joe Biden on one side and then, you know, to use just a name, a Mitt Romney on the other, right?

You would, you would

restore back. And so the resistance was all that was necessary. You just had to resist that.

The fact is, there's no snapping back.

Hello, and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it.

Well, he won. And yesterday, he was inaugurated. I didn't watch it. The days leading up to January 20th have already tested my faith in this country, in the federal government's ability to counter any of what's coming, and quite frankly, it's tested my faith in humanity. But as today's

guest, Mark Elias, has said, no one is coming to save us. We're it, and we don't really have the

luxury of giving up and letting ourselves become cynical and nihilistic. Donald Trump and his

enablers want us to feel powerless and hopeless.

They want us to feel that resistance is futile. And honestly, between you and me, it's easy to feel

that way when you see all of these important people with way more power than you, bowing down to kiss

the ring. These people who could stand up to the bully, who could make a difference supporting

our democracy or

our constitution, or even just what's right, tripping over themselves to see who can prostrate

themselves further for the furor. And it is incredibly pathetic. But it should inspire you. Because

with all the talk of betas and cucks, these captains of industry are exactly that. Scared, integrity-free weaklings. These billionaires and

media moguls and business leaders are the weakest link in our society. But we, the majority of this

country who believe in fairness and justice and the rule of law, have another choice. And I'm having

Mark Elias on today to talk about it. If you don't know Mark Elias, he is an

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