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Hi, I'm Otto.

Welcome to Ellen Sarah's podcast.

Oh, this episode is a long time coming, guys.

I have to tell you, I thought I knew a lot about being a woman.

I thought I knew a lot about, you know, anti-aging, the tricks, the hacks, the things to do.

But Dr. Mary Claire Haver, she opened my mind up in a way that I cannot

explain. This episode is for, I mean, if you were a woman, this episode is for you. Honestly,

if you're a guy, you should be listening to this too, so you understand us more. But this is for all of us. I wish I had this

episode when I was 18. I wish I had this episode when I was 30. I would be glad to have this

episode at 60. It's just so informative, but it's also fun. You know, sometimes you talk to doctors

and it's a little bit stiff. She's fun and

she's also living her best life. She's like, let me tell you something, honey, you wish you were me.

And I was like, oh my God, I love it. And then by the end I was like, yes, I do wish I was you.

So we are sitting down with Dr. Mary Claire Haver. She has a board certified

OBGYN menopause specialist, but don't let that menopause. You know, I always associated

menopause with, oh, menopause is for, you know, you have gray hair and you're in a wheelchair

and you're old. No, your body starts changing, your hormones start changing so much earlier than you think without a warning.

So we discuss all of that.

She is the author of multiple bestselling books, including her latest, the new perimenopause.

So we talk about all the things you should be doing in your 20s and your 30s to live your best life as you get older,

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