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Pablo Torre Finds Out

What NFL Owners Don't Want You to Know, with Don Van Natta Jr.

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Pablo Torre, Le Batard & Friends

Sports

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

It's obvious that the NFL is the most powerful institution in American culture. But far less clear is what the league's power looks like from the inside. Which is why our guest before the Super Bowl is three-time Pulitzer-winner Don Van Natta Jr., whose investigative work for ESPN has offered a rare glimpse at a group that refers to itself as The Membership. Not to mention commissioner Roger Goodell, a human shield who's protected owners from a series of once-catastrophic scandals — and a boardroom that resembles an episode of Succession. Plus: the defenestration of Dan Snyder, the desperation of Bob Kraft and the superpower (and flip phone) of shadow commissioner Jerry Jones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre. Today's episode is brought to you by Draft Kings.

0:05.7

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Invariably, Don Vanatta is working on some shit.

1:08.6

You're usually up to some stuff, Don.

1:10.4

Usually have a few things going.

1:11.7

General principle.

1:13.4

When I say, though, that, and I say this all the time to the point where I actually don't know why you won them, but I say three-time Pulitzer Prize winner, Don Vanetta.

1:22.7

Could you refresh our memory here?

1:24.7

Like, what were you doing before you were doing what we're here to actually

1:28.3

talk about? The first Pulitzer was a public service Pulitzer, actually at the Miami Herald. It was

1:33.9

covering Hurricane Andrew, the eye of the storm. I was in Florida City, and 165-mile-an-hour winds

1:41.5

were whipping around us in a comfort in motel, which got torn apart.

1:46.3

And I wrote a first person story on a trash 80, one of these little Texas instrument computers

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