What Next: Who Is Trump Without Trump Tower?

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🗓️ 5 October 2023

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For once, Donald Trump is going to court for things that have nothing to do with his presidency. As Trump defends himself and his businesses against charges of fraud, what does his conduct in New York tell us about how his other trials may go? Guest: Zach Schonfeld, courts and legal reporter for The Hill. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	If you ever find yourself in court facing fraud charges, most defense attorneys might
0:12.3	tell you to play it cool.
0:14.4	Donald Trump is not like any other defendant.
0:19.5	Zach Schoenfeld covers courts for the Hill.
0:22.0	This week he's reporting on former President Trump's civil trial in Lower Manhattan.
0:27.4	And you can see that on the first day of trial when he walked in.
0:39.4	Donald Trump is someone who has attacked judges in all of his cases against him and prosecutors
0:44.8	and everyone involved in these legal battles.
0:48.3	And Latisha James, the New York Attorney General, has really been one of his oldest now antagonistic
0:54.6	relationships.
0:55.6	We have a racist attorney general who's a harrass show who ran on the basis that he
1:00.2	was going to get Trump before she even knew anything about me.
1:04.4	So I think there's as much to watch of actually these legal debates going on between the attorneys
1:09.0	and the judge, as well as in the court of public opinion, and what Donald Trump is saying
1:14.0	to reporters and the cameras outside.
1:16.9	And this is what we have.
1:17.9	It's a scam, it's a sham.
1:21.6	Former President Trump has a lot going on legally.
1:24.9	But with this case, he's not facing criminal charges.
1:28.8	He, his oldest sons, and other Trump organization executives are being charged with fraud over
1:35.2	how they've run the family business.
1:38.0	So the essence of this case is really that Donald Trump built his business empire on a fraud.
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