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What Next - Where Sports Betting Got Us

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🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Last week, the FBI indicted more than 30 people in a series of NBA gambling scandals. The sports leagues are promising drastic action – but with everyone from the states to the owners getting rich off legal sports gambling, is the game rigged? 

Guest: Jay Willis, editor-in-chief of Balls and Strikes.

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0:00.0

In late August 1992, Randy Weaver and his family were refusing to come down from the remote Idaho mountaintop where they lived.

0:09.0

Weaver, a fugitive on a federal firearms charge, has been hold up in a cabin near Naples for more than a year.

0:15.0

The government thought Randy Weaver was a dangerous, possibly violent extremist.

0:20.0

Randy and his wife Vicky thought the government

0:23.0

was an agent of Satan on earth. When it was all over, three people were dead, and the government

0:29.2

had spent millions of dollars to catch one man. We'll find out why the siege at Ruby Ridge

0:34.7

unfolded the way it did, and think about some of the questions it raises.

0:39.4

What should we do about white supremacists? Why has the story of Ruby Ridge become an enduring

0:45.3

myth for the far right? And whose fault was it anyway?

0:51.0

Subscribe to Standoff, what happened at Ruby Ridge Ridge in Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.

1:06.5

I've been thinking a lot lately about

1:08.9

Back to the Future Part 2.

1:19.6

In the 1985 classic, Marty McFly makes a brief visit to the future, or, well, to 2015.

1:28.6

And while he's there, he buys this sports almanac.

1:33.2

He takes it back to the past, tempted by this idea to make money off of upcoming games.

1:39.7

The only problem is it's Biff Tannen, the McFly family's generational bully who gets his hands

1:45.2

on the scores, and he uses them to cheat his way to becoming one of the richest guys in America.

1:51.1

It doesn't end well.

1:53.2

Discover how in 1979 Biff successfully lobbied to legalize gambling and turned Hill Valley's

1:58.8

dilapidated courthouse into a beautiful casino

2:01.3

hotel. You just want to say one thing. God bless America.

2:11.1

Is this story about a millionaire tearing down a public government building to put up a giant

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