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What Next - What's Eating the Economy?

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🗓️ 17 June 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

The American economy has gotten more consolidated and more reliant on algorithms—while also, according to most people, getting more expensive, slower, and worse. Is there some causality in this correlation? 


Guest: Matt Stoller, Research Director for the American Economic Liberties Project and author of Goliath: The Hundred Year War Between Monopoly Power and Democracy.



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C EE. C EE. E. C. E. K. slash claims. Before I tell you what an economic termite is, I want to introduce you to the guy who

0:39.7

coined the phrase. His name is Matt Stoller. He writes about the economy. And he wants to acknowledge

0:46.8

something, a feeling he's got, that he's pretty sure you've got too. Our experience in the economy is just worse, right? Things are more of a pain in the ass and you don't really know why.

1:05.0

You know what Matt's talking about here, right? Maybe you've felt it when you tally up what you're spending on groceries.

1:09.0

Maybe you've felt it when you're haggling over a medical bill.

1:12.0

Matt says, termites are the source of this

1:16.2

feeling and it's not just you dealing with an infestation. I do lectures to

1:22.2

different groups and I was lecturing to a group of national security

1:25.2

officials and I sat in on the lecture before I was supposed to give my talk and there was a guy talking

1:30.3

about the budget and he was like well you know everything's's getting more expensive and that just how it is and that sucks, but you know, we're going to do less with more.

1:40.0

Okay, this is the part where you are beginning to wonder, what the hell is an economic

1:46.1

termite? The reason Matt started using this analogy is because he thinks about the

1:52.0

rising cost of everything as being tethered to a problem that is incredibly big, systemic even,

1:59.0

but driven by something that's very, very small, fees and price increases that are slowly

2:06.2

munching away at the support beams all around us. Economic termites, Matt says, are everywhere.

2:14.0

They're in our computer software, our housing market.

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