At the end of this very strange week in Los Angeles, a week in which immigration raids sparked protest, and protest sparked nakedly political federal intervention, I thought it would be useful to pause and talk to someone who's really in the trenches.

So we got Jeremy Lindenfeld on the line.

I usually get up at 5.30 and I check to see where either there is an ice raid happening or there's a

protest happening. And then I just go out until I either

run out of batteries or I need to file.

Jeremy's a journalist, one of a handful, who was covering protests in Los Angeles

way before the cable news showed up.

Last week, he was at that Home Depot in Paramount, California, as community outrage came to a head.

He captured a video that to me conveys the strangeness of what's been going on.

In it, border agents are shooting a ton of rounds, creating a cloud of smoke,

when slowly, very cinematically, a guy carrying a skateboard emerges from the smog.

He turns around and gives the agents the finger.

It turns out there's a backstory to this footage.

Just before that moment, I posted another video that is a sort of like prolog to that other one.

He's standing maybe like 20 or 30 feet in front of the line of border agents.

And as they shoot pepper balls at his feet, he's sort of taunting and mocking them by, like,

dancing around in the pepper balls.

And yeah, I guess that he like starts walking and they, I mean, they must have fired like

50 something, over 50

munitions at him as he's walking away.

What's the ratio of protesters to law enforcement when you show up at protests?

I know it's probably variable, but I'm sort of wondering what the range is.

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