I know that every time a bell rings, a podcast gets its wings, but a couple weeks

back, a podcast dropped that really grabbed my attention.

It was a podcast from Katie Miller.

Hi, I'm Katie Miller.

Welcome to my podcast and welcome to my living room.

Katie Miller, of course, served in both Trump White Houses.

She's married to the president's right-hand man, Stephen Miller.

For years, I've watched from the sidelines as people I know, people I respect,

have hosted TV shows, radio shows, podcasts, you name it. And I thought,

hey, I could do that too. Katie Miller's podcast announcement was very interesting for a lot of

reasons. Emma Goldberg, over at the New York Times, says this show launch caught her attention

because of its timing. See, Katie Miller had been working with

Elon Musk. At the same time, our husband was working with Donald Trump. It raised uncomfortable

questions. Would she be able to stay in this very awkward job after the very public breakup between

these two powerful men? The answer was no. The answer was no. We got our

answer the other week when she took this kind of well-trod road of not knowing what to do job-wise

and deciding to launch a podcast. Who among us? The podcast launch video was a little strange to me, both because it's just awkward to chill

for yourself.

But there's this moment she says, you may be wondering what I'm doing here hosting a podcast.

And I was like, actually, I'm not wondering that at all.

Like, this seems like exactly what you would be doing.

Like, we knew this was coming. Yeah, the part that really struck me from the launch video was when she says there just aren't spaces for conservative women to gather online. And what struck me about that is that there's never been more spaces for

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