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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

The National Emergency Isn’t Really Trump’s Fault

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

President Trump’s national emergency declaration is headed for a showdown. More and more Senate Republicans are peeling away from their caucus to reject it. Sen. Rand Paul says his “political soul” hangs in the balance. But Sen. Mitch McConnell is keeping his opinions to himself. and waiting for Trump’s veto to send the issue to the courts. Why are Republicans leaders supporting what their colleagues call a blatant executive branch power grab?

Guest: Slate politics writer Jim Newell.

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0:00.0

We're talking about the emergency, right?

0:06.3

Yeah. I'm going to have to ask you to like pump us up a little bit.

0:10.4

Who's ready for Senate procedure?

0:16.5

Jim Newell covers Capitol Hill for Slate. What's your headline going to be?

0:21.3

My headline is going to be this is exactly what Mitch McConnell was trying to avoid.

0:28.2

What Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has been trying to avoid

0:31.6

is a parade of senators having to publicly defend or reject the president's plan to build a border wall using his emergency powers.

0:40.8

Just the ugly spectacle was what Mitch McConnell was trying to avoid the entire way.

0:46.9

I don't think he actually cares about the precedent being set here or the power of the person safeguarding that and blah,

0:54.5

blah, blah. He's just worried about it being politically damaging internally. But turn on cable news

0:59.5

and the spectacle. It's exactly what's playing out. Enough Republicans have announced they'll vote

1:04.9

to block the president's border emergency that it's virtually guaranteed Trump is going to have

1:10.0

to use his veto power to overrule them.

1:11.6

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, the Republican, has announced on Fox News.com,

1:16.6

that he opposes the president's declaration.

1:18.6

He'll support that measure to try to block it, saying, quote,

1:21.6

I would literally lose my political soul if I decided to treat President Trump different than President Obama.

1:28.3

When you see Rand Paul saying it is editorial that it would be literally like ruin his political

1:35.2

soul if he voted for this, then what does that say about the people who are supporting

1:39.9

the president here?

1:40.9

It says that, you know, everyone else is not Rand Paul in the Republican

1:44.5

conference, they're a bunch of hacks. McConnell really doesn't like to spend time on things

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