What Next | The Group Chat Heard ‘Round the World

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🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

How former congressman and Air Force veteran, Adam Kinzinger interprets the leaked Signal chat of top Trump administration officials discussing a military strike on Houthi targets. Guest: Adam Kinzinger, former Republican Congressman for Illinois’s 11th and 16th districts who served on the January 6th select committee, and author of Renegade: Defending Democracy and Liberty in Our Divided Country. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:57.0	So, Adam, on a day like today, I'm wondering, do you kind of miss your old job?
1:02.9	No.
1:03.8	No.
1:08.0	Adam Kinsinger used to serve in Congress.
1:11.6	Maybe you remember him.
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