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What Next TBD: When A.I. Steals Your Voice

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Using just what you’ve posted to social media, generative A.I. can create a “puppet version” of your voice—one that’s close enough to scam your family into paying thousands in, say, bail money. And imitating public officials to create “deep fakes” who say whatever they’re told is even easier. Guest: Pranshu Verma, tech reporter for the Washington Post. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:47.9

I wonder if you could tell me the story of Benjamin Parkin.

0:52.4

So Benjamin Parkin is a 39 year old executive in Canada.

1:02.0

That's reporter Pranchu Verba who covers tack and innovation for the Washington Post.

1:06.5

And this story the Pranchu is telling starts early one morning in January.

1:11.5

Ben Perkins parents get a call on their landline around 7 a.m. in the morning.

1:17.9

And the call is pretty serious.

1:20.9

It's a lawyer allegedly saying that their son Ben has killed a US diplomat in a car accident and that Perkins is in jail.

1:31.3

And he needs money for legal fees.

1:34.5

The lawyer then goes and puts Ben Perkins the son on the phone and Ben says, Hey, mom and dad, I love you.

1:43.6

I appreciate you. I need this money and a few hours later, another call comes back.

1:51.8

And this time it's the lawyer and he says we need 21,000 Canadian dollars and we need it today because Ben needs this money to get out of jail.

2:03.3

And they put Ben on the phone again and Ben in a distressed state assures their parents that yes, I need the money.

2:14.6

Ben Perkins parents are terrified.

2:18.6

They do have a brief moment of wondering if this could possibly be a scam.

2:23.6

But they remember in that moment feeling like this sounded just like their son.

2:29.6

Ben's parents were able to quickly get 21,000 Canadian dollars.

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