What Next TBD: Tim Apple vs. Mark Facebook

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🗓️ 30 April 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

There was a time—back when Steve Jobs ran Apple and Mark Zuckerberg was in his early days as Facebook’s CEO— that Apple and Facebook were friends.. Or, at worst, frenemies. But as the companies grew, so did two competing views of how the internet should work. What led to the rift between Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook? And will Apple’s new privacy rules undercut Facebook’s vision for the internet? Guest: Mike Isaac, tech reporter at the New York Times Host Lizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I want to actually start by going back three years ago to this moment when Tim Cook, CEO
0:12.9	of Apple, goes on MSNBC.
0:15.9	We're looking at every app in detail.
0:19.4	What is it doing?
0:20.4	Is it doing what it's saying it's doing?
0:22.8	Is it meeting the privacy policy that they're stating, right?
0:26.9	And so we're all...
0:27.9	You're nodding.
0:28.9	You remember this.
0:30.4	Yep.
0:31.4	That's my guy, Sik.
0:32.4	He covers tech for the New York Times.
0:34.4	He knows this moment well because in this interview, Tim Cook does something unusual.
0:39.8	He's talking to Chris Hayes and Kara Swisher about privacy.
0:44.2	This is just after people's personal data from Facebook was exposed in the Cambridge
0:48.9	Analytica scandal.
0:50.2	Big scandal.
0:51.2	And Kara says, what would you do?
0:54.4	What would I do?
0:56.4	I wouldn't be in a situation.
0:59.6	What if you think then?
1:01.5	Because I was like, whoa, that is aggressive for a CEO to say.
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