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Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself?

I'm Vijay Vytiswaran. I'm the Global Energy and Climate Innovation Editor at the Economist.

How many cops do you think you've covered at this point?

Too many is the answer. There's no good number to cover.

Cop stands for Conference of the Parties. It's the UN's annual summit on climate change.

This year's cop, in Charmere, will shake Egypt is the 27th one.

The most memorable one probably was in the hage in the Netherlands a couple of decades ago when I was standing near Frank Lloyd,

the US negotiator who had a pie thrown in his face. And I can still taste the custard.

Vijay argues that not all cops are created equal. There are big ones and there are little ones.

So every five years or so there is a big cop, meaning there's something quite substantial on the agenda.

Major breakthrough we can think about the Paris Accord, which was reached of course in France.

That was a big cop. There's a lot that people had to negotiate for.

And then a number of years went by and then we had the Glasgow cop. That was a little more than five years because of the pandemic.

But that's the rhythm of these UN conferences of the parties.

Vijay says that this year's cop, COP27, is a little cop.

But that doesn't mean that nothing is going to happen. And there is one very explosive issue, which I'm sure we'll talk about, which is reparations.

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