Ah, Benny's parents, thanks for coming.

Hiya.

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When it's this easy to sell for free, you can't help but say when it's eBay.

Things people love. T's and Cs apply, excludes vehicles.

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A quick heads up before we get started today.

We are talking about the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

Please take care while listening.

In addition, this is a fast-moving news story. So it's possible that some things may have changed by the time you listen. Okay, here's the show.

I'm really sorry to start out our interview this way, but I wonder if you could describe for me when and how you came across the video of Charlie Kirk being shot.

Yes. So I had seen, I first learned of him being shot on X and had sort of been scrolling and looking and

really didn't want to see the video.

That's Craig Silverman.

He's a longtime internet reporter who now runs indicator media.

I consider him one of the smartest people around when it comes to understanding

our digital ecosystems. And one of the people I follow is Britt Hume, who is a long time,

you know, host and commentator with Fox News. And he had quote tweeted something. And that came to the

top of my feed. I looked at what he wrote and underneath

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