What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Trump's Disney Shakedown
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🗓️ 29 May 2026
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Summary
How the Trump administration has tried to put pressure on Disney for opinions expressed by Jimmy Kimmel and the hosts of The View—and how the Mouse is fighting back.
Guest: Anna M. Gomez, commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission since September 2023.
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| 0:00.0 | Commissioner Anna Gomez, welcome to the show. |
| 0:07.8 | Thank you. It's good to be with you. |
| 0:10.1 | In normal times, in a normal Federal Communications Commission, Anna Gomez's job |
| 0:15.2 | might be described as wonky, nerdy, maybe even occasionally boring. But now is not that time. So a large part of my |
| 0:26.0 | role is to call out this administration's abuses of the First Amendment, particularly when it |
| 0:32.3 | chooses to weaponize the FCC in trying to shut down any voices that it doesn't like. |
| 0:37.9 | And we see this constantly. |
| 0:40.3 | There is a constant infringement on the free press and on the First Amendment and on the rights of viewers and listeners to see and hear what they want to see and hear. |
| 0:53.0 | Gomez is the sole Democrat on the commission, and her term is set to end on June 30th. |
| 0:59.2 | Normally, there would be five commissioners at the FCC, but right now there are only three. |
| 1:03.8 | Two resigned last year, and the Trump administration has not nominated their replacements. |
| 1:09.6 | So Gomez is on a First Amendment tour of sorts, telling |
| 1:13.7 | Americans that the actions of the FCC chair, her colleague Brendan Carr, are egregious. |
| 1:20.3 | Well, the most egregious violation is the actions that this FCC has taken against Disney, |
| 1:25.2 | particularly most recently when the day after the White House called for |
| 1:30.6 | Jimmy Kimmel to be taken off the air, this FCC ordered Disney to renew early the licenses for |
| 1:40.7 | eight of its local broadcast stations. And why that matters is because the FCC's only |
| 1:46.4 | regulatory hook over broadcasters is over the licensing of the airwaves for these broadcast stations. |
| 1:53.9 | Right. They can't do anything to Disney, Jimmy Kimmel, directly. There is nothing this FCC can do |
| 1:59.6 | to Disney. But it certainly hasn't stopped it from |
| 2:02.5 | trying time and time again. And it has taken multiple actions against Disney and its local |
| 2:09.7 | broadcast stations, whether it's initiating an investigation into the view or |
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