What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Next Amazon Union Fight
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🗓️ 14 October 2022
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Summary
Following their victory in Staten Island, the Amazon Labor Union is still facing an uphill battle. Both the company and the union are closely watching the organizing vote at a warehouse outside of Albany, NY.
Guest: Noam Scheiber, labor reporter for the New York Times.
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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| 0:00.0 | There is this moment from April that I've been thinking about a lot this week. |
| 0:13.8 | It's when the Amazon Labor Union won the Longshot vote to unionize its first warehouse |
| 0:19.8 | in the U.S. A facility called JFK-8 in Staten Island, and it was simply huge. |
| 0:26.9 | During this was Amazon, a company as responsible as any for transforming American work life |
| 0:32.9 | over the last generation. |
| 0:35.1 | It was a massive joyful victory for the small upstart union known as the ALU. |
| 0:41.4 | We got the juggler, we went for the juggler, and we went for the top dog because we want |
| 0:46.4 | every other industry, every other business to know that games have changed, we're going |
| 0:52.8 | unionize, we're not going to quit our jobs anymore. |
| 0:56.6 | And when I asked Noam Shiver, who covers labor for the New York Times, what he remembered |
| 1:00.8 | from that moment. |
| 1:02.0 | He had a very different mental image, one from before all the jubilation. |
| 1:07.5 | You could watch the video of the canal, you know, the NLRB was streaming on Zoom, and |
| 1:14.4 | you just saw all these kind of lawyers and suits, and then Chris Small is the president of |
| 1:20.3 | the ALU sitting there, and he's kind of, he's read jumpsuit with his knees kind of bouncing |
| 1:26.3 | up and down, you know, and every time we get a little closer, his knees would become |
| 1:30.9 | like a little more, a little more frenetic, and you could just tell that the air was going |
| 1:37.1 | out of the Amazon side, and he was just getting closer to this thing that he'd kind of dreamed |
| 1:41.8 | about, but didn't even entirely believe was possible himself. |
| 1:45.9 | How would you describe their mood now? |
| 1:49.6 | You know, I think we've come a long way, it's only been six months or so, but it probably |
| 1:55.1 | feels like years to them. |
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