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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The FBI Made a Phone Network. It Was A Trap.

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3.8546 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In 2021, one of the largest global law enforcement operations took place. It was all thanks to an encrypted phone service known as Anom, which was secretly run by the FBI.  The program was a wild success. But did the agency take it too far?  Guest: Joseph Cox, investigative reporter for 404 media and author of “Dark Wire, the Incredible True Story of the Largest Sting Operation Ever” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

As the sun rose on the morning of June 8th, 2021, one of the single largest law enforcement

0:11.2

operations in history began.

0:14.2

It starts in Australia and they're breaking down doors, they're arresting bikers, drug

0:20.7

traffickers, all of these sorts of people.

0:25.3

That's reporter Joseph Cox, author of the new book Darkwire. Police arrested more than 800 people in 16 countries in a series of raids that followed the path of the early morning sun.

0:39.1

Then the arrests move over as the sun moves to Europe, and they do the same thing there.

0:45.9

They're arresting all of these weapons smugglers and hit men and more drug traffickers as well,

0:52.1

until eventually the sun moves to the west coast,

0:55.1

to San Diego, and that's where the FBI

0:58.3

and the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of California

1:01.6

reveals what is behind all of these arrests.

1:05.8

This investigation called Operation Trojan Shield

1:09.1

shined a light into the shadowy industry

1:11.6

of hardened, encrypted devices.

1:14.9

For the first time,

1:16.6

the FBI developed and operated

1:18.7

its own hardened encrypted device company

1:21.1

called ANAM, A-N-O-M.

1:33.5

Drug smugglers, money launderers, biker gangs, and hitmen thought they were communicating securely with one another on an encrypted phone network that they all trusted.

1:38.7

But what they didn't know was that the FBI was secretly running it all along.

1:44.6

These criminals thought they were hiding in the shadows.

1:48.4

They were talking about multi-ton cocaine deals.

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