Why don't you guys go ahead and introduce yourself?

My name is Mark Bergen.

I'm a reporter with Bloomberg and the author of a new book, Like, Comment, Subscribe, Inside

YouTube's Chaotic Rise to World Domination.

I'm Claire Stapleton and I worked at Google from 2007 to 2019.

I was a marketing manager there at Google on YouTube,

and I was the co-organizer of the 2018 Google Walkout,

and I subsequently left the company,

and now I read a newsletter about being a formerly disillusion

tech worker. I brought Mark and Claire on the show this week to talk about YouTube. Mark's

fascinating new book about the company is out this week, and Claire was one of his sources.

Little teenage girls will bow before me. One key story in the book, a story that says a lot about YouTube as a platform, unfolded in 2017.

They will buy all my merchandise.

They will click like on all my videos.

You're hearing the voice of PewDiePie, aka Felix Gelberg, YouTube's number one creator.

What you can't see is that he's interspersed his video with images of Nazi salutes.

It was an in-your-face response to accusations that he was flirting with white supremacy

and a story in the Wall Street Journal about

anti-Semitism on his YouTube channel, something Jillberg said he did as boundary-pushing satire.

YouTube never figured its biggest star would be beloved by neo-Nazis.

It was right after Trump had sent out a letter about the Holocaust day, and it didn't mention Jews.

And there was a lot of conversation then about the significance of that and how that was being received in the far right.

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