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North Korea's Hacking Army

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🗓️ 22 May 2022

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

They’ve stolen billions of dollars. Is the U.S. ready to crack down?


Guest: Jason Bartlett, research associate in the Energy, Economics, and Security Program at the Center for a New American Security


Host: Lizzie O'Leary


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0:00.0

I wonder if I can get you to play translator for me with the Treasury Department.

0:10.5

Sure. I'll try my best.

0:12.4

That's Jason Bartlett. He's an expert in international sanctions policy.

0:16.6

Among other things, he studies North Korea.

0:19.7

So he was the perfect person to help understand this statement from the Treasury Department from early May.

0:24.6

It says they sanctioned virtual currency mixer blender.io,

0:30.7

which is used by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, aka North Korea,

0:35.7

to support its malicious cyber activities and money laundering

0:39.2

of stolen virtual currency. I wonder, as an expert on all of this, if you could put that into

0:45.9

plain English for me, what does that mean? It was a very significant measure by Treasury because

0:51.5

it was the first ever designation of a cryptocurrency mixer.

0:55.7

And why that matters is that for the past year and a half, the Biden administration has

1:01.5

really tried to wrap its head around cryptocurrency and how it is potentially used to finance

1:09.1

bad activity. And if you use crypto to finance bad activity.

1:15.9

And if you use crypto to finance shady things like terrorism or nuclear weapons,

1:18.2

you don't want a digital trail.

1:20.3

And that's where a mixer comes in.

1:25.9

Think of it as a technology where you put in one kind of crypto and another kind comes out.

1:28.9

So some mixers have different functions. Some allow you to put in Bitcoin. It can come out of Ethereum. Or other times, they allow you to

1:33.9

switch around the addresses. So it's really hard to tell who is putting the crypto when, where,

1:39.4

and why, and how it's coming out. If that sounds to you like a great way to launder money, you're not alone.

1:47.7

North Korea thinks so too.

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