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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

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4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2017

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about changes to net neutrality that were announced this week. They also talk a little about the digital media bubble and if it’s real, and April will also tell us about how living with a robot is going. We also have Black friday special for you - the hosts will talk with Brian Krebs, an expert on cybercrime - about everything retailers and consumers should know before the big day.

And lastly, Don’t Close My Tabs - Will and April’s picks for best on the web this week.

April’s Tab:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/

Will’s Tab - https://www.thedailybeast.com/ceo-of-hq-the-hottest-app-going-if-you-run-this-profile-well-fire-our-host

You can get updates about what’s coming up next by following us on twitter @ifthenpod. You can follow Will @WillOremus and April is @Aprilaser. If you have a question or comment for us, you can email as well at ifthen@slate.com.

If Then is presented by Slate and Future Tense, a collaboration among Arizona State University, New America, and Slate. Future Tense explores the ways emerging technologies affect society, policy, and culture. To read more, follow us on Twitter and sign up for our weekly newsletter.


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0:00.0

Welcome to If Then, the show about how technology is changing our lives and our future.

0:11.2

I'm April Glazer.

0:12.4

And I'm Will Aramis.

0:20.7

Hi, everyone. Welcome to If Then. We're coming to you from Slate and Future Tense, a partnership between Slate, Arizona State University, and New America.

0:28.5

We're recording this on the afternoon of Tuesday, November 21st. On today's show, we'll talk about the changes to net neutrality rules that came to light today. We'll also talk a little bit about

0:37.5

the digital media bubble, and if that's a real thing, April will tell us about her experience,

0:42.8

bringing Google into her living room for a week. Later on, we have a Black Friday special for you.

0:47.1

We'll talk with Brian Krebs, an expert on cybercrime about everything retailers and consumers

0:51.0

should know before the big day. And lastly, don't close my tabs,

0:54.6

our picks for the best of the web this week. Will, how are you? I'm doing great. It is 80 degrees

1:00.7

today in Santa Barbara, California. How are you, April? I'm jealous because I think it's just in the

1:05.8

60s here, and to me, that's quite cold in the Bay Area. I'm sure everyone on the East Coast or in the middle

1:12.4

of the country that's listening to us is grimacing right now. We're sorry. So, Will,

1:18.5

as always, so much happening this week, but what are you writing about? What really caught

1:24.7

your eye? All right. So this is going to turn the mood a little more somber, at least for me as a digital journalist. But there has basically become a consensus

1:31.9

over the past few days that something is wrong in online media. And the evidence for that is that

1:38.9

we're seeing sort of two things happen at once, I think. One is that two of the brightest stars in online media, BuzzFeed and Vice, these are companies that have attracted lots of investment.

1:49.1

They've been making lots of money.

1:50.1

They've been growing really fast.

1:52.1

They're kind of, you know, they're kind of the models that everybody looks to for how do you make money with news and journalism and content online.

1:59.3

They both missed their revenue targets by a wide margin, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal last week.

2:04.9

At the same time, some of the sort of mid-tier online publications that have tried to save their business by doing what has come to be known as the pivot to video.

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