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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - 2025: Dystopian Tech of the Year

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🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Artificial intelligence boosters spent the year wedging the tech into our lives – whether we wanted it or not. But one new product brought A.I. from every app and website into the meatspace, forcing you to face it eye-to-eye.


Guest: Nitish Pahwa, staff writer at Slate covering business and technology


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0:58.8

How many times, Tish, do you think we have brought you on to talk about some piece of apocalyptic or dystopian tech news?

1:08.4

Honestly, I might need to get an AI to count that up for me at this point.

1:17.0

Natishpawa covers business and tech here at Slate.

1:20.4

And you probably know that because he's been on TBD a lot.

1:25.0

What kind of year would you say big tech had? Big tech had a very

1:30.7

bubblicious time. You know, big social media, big cryptocurrency, big AI, kind of just had

1:40.1

their wishes granted by the administration.

1:48.8

They have just the easiest time ever from this government. And despite that, we are also starting to get some apocalyptic vibes of sorts

1:57.9

economically and otherwise from these folks.

2:08.2

Apocalyptic vibes is a good shorthand for 2025.

2:14.9

So much so that when we called Tisch Up for our end-of-the-year recap show, we had a very apocalyptic ask. Specifically, what was the most dystopian piece of technology

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