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A quick warning before we start, there's a little spicy language in this episode.

I just have to ask you, um, have you always been into aliens?

Oh, yeah, for sure.

When did that start?

I mean, I think I've been fascinated by sci-fi movies in this topic since I was a kid.

It's not every day that I get to talk to a very serious journalist.

In this case, Shane Harris from The Washington Post about aliens.

Maybe it starts with ET.

Yeah.

I was born in 76 or ET is sort of like my childhood, you know, the cinematic encounter,

I guess you would say.

But this is a general topic.

Yeah, I've just generally sort of always been fascinated by it,

but it's only been recently that it intersected with what I write about for a living.

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