TBD | It's Hot. It's Flooding. Is This the New Normal?
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🗓️ 16 July 2021
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Over the last month, North Americans have seen record-breaking heat, droughts, wildfires, and floods. The science is clear: we are living through the effects of climate change. Now scientists are trying to answer: is this the new normal?
Guest: Daniel Swain, climate scientist at UCLA
Host
Lizzie O’Leary
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| 0:00.0 | Last week, I was sitting on my in-laws porch in coastal Georgia, watching the rain and wind and lightning pummel the beach in front of us. |
| 0:12.4 | It was part of Tropical Storm Elsa, and as we were watching it, my husband and I started talking about the strength of this storm, about the likelihood of more, about the |
| 0:22.4 | heat that was roasting the Pacific Northwest and Colorado and California. And I wanted to know |
| 0:28.6 | whether all these extreme events were caused by climate change. It's a natural question, but it's |
| 0:35.4 | also what climate scientists like Daniel Sw, think is the wrong one. |
| 0:39.9 | My reaction to the question of did climate change cause this, say, extreme weather event of some kind in some specific place, |
| 0:50.8 | is actually frustration with the way the question is being framed. |
| 0:56.1 | Swayne studies the intersection of climate and weather at UCLA. |
| 1:00.0 | And he says that when you pose the question, the way I did, |
| 1:02.8 | you almost always get a preordained no, |
| 1:05.9 | because no one thing causes any one weather event. |
| 1:09.9 | And so the real answer, I think, that people are looking for is actually to the slightly |
| 1:14.5 | different question of, did climate change affect the likelihood or the severity of the |
| 1:20.0 | thing I just experienced? |
| 1:22.2 | And the answer to that, lately, is yes. |
| 1:28.3 | It's not like California's never seen wildfires before or the West has never seen |
| 1:33.4 | drought before or New York City has never seen summer thunderstorms and downpours before. |
| 1:39.4 | The question really is a matter of degrees, literally. |
| 1:45.0 | Today on the show, Daniel teaches us how to ask the right questions about climate change, |
| 1:50.0 | to understand our reality, and maybe even find a little optimism in this summer of extreme |
| 1:56.4 | weather gloom. |
| 1:58.7 | I'm Lizzie O'Leary, and you're listening to What Next TBD, |
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