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🗓️ 23 May 2025
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0:00.0 | In August of 2019, reporter Karen Howe went to visit the San Francisco headquarters of Open AI. |
0:11.9 | It had started as a non-profit research lab that said it was dedicated to fundamental AI research |
0:17.3 | with no commercial focus, no commercial intent. At the time, Karen was covering AI for |
0:25.1 | MIT Tech Review. An OpenAI was the buzzy new kid on the block. It had money, big names, and lofty |
0:32.8 | ambitions to develop artificial general intelligence, AGI, for the good of society. |
0:39.9 | Then Open AI, which had really built a mission around the idea that it would be fully transparent and open source all of its research, |
0:49.7 | withheld its first piece of research for sort of unclear, ambiguous reasons. And then it restructured |
0:57.9 | as an organization. A few months earlier, the nonprofit that controlled OpenAI set up a for-profit |
1:04.7 | arm and got a billion dollars from Microsoft. Not long after, Karen walked in. |
1:11.6 | So the first meeting that I had in the offices was with Greg Brockman and Ilya |
1:16.4 | Satskeber, the CTO and chief scientist of Open AI. And I kind of went in, I went in |
1:26.2 | with a generally good view of the organization. And I wanted to just ask some |
1:31.0 | basic questions about how they thought about themselves, how they thought about their mission, |
1:36.1 | which was to ensure artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. So I began by |
1:42.5 | asking, you know, how do you define AGI? What do you think it will be |
1:48.0 | able to do? What are the bad things that you think could come out of it? Because another |
1:52.2 | pillar of opening eyes mythology is that they need to build good AGI before someone builds bad |
1:59.2 | AGI. And I also asked, why do you think we should spend billions of dollars on this problem? |
2:07.4 | You know, humanity is facing a lot of different challenges. |
2:09.6 | Why not spend billions directly on tackling climate change rather than on AGI that could |
2:16.7 | help tackle climate change? And I AGI that could help tackle climate change. |
2:19.0 | And I realized in that meeting that they didn't have a very good articulation at all of what |
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