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🗓️ 16 February 2025
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0:00.0 | When I sat down with Chris Hayes, I asked him to pretend that we were at a cocktail party |
0:09.6 | and that I was talking his ear off. |
0:12.7 | I just like won't shut up about, I guess, we'll save my child. |
0:18.0 | You're giving me a decent amount of your focused attention. What kind of attention is that? |
0:25.4 | That is voluntary attention, where I'm using my sort of conscious mind to exert my powers of focus on you. |
0:33.0 | And particularly in those sorts of environments, there's a lot of distractions. You actually have to work |
0:36.9 | pretty hard to kind of block those out if you're in a, you know, |
0:40.9 | if you're at a concert or a baseball game or a cocktail party where there's like a lot of stimulus around you. |
0:46.6 | You may know Chris from his MSNBC show, All In. |
0:50.3 | But he also just wrote a book, The Sirens Call, which is all about attention, and how, in the age of smartphones and social media, attention became, quote, the most endangered resource in the world. |
1:03.9 | So let's keep going with our party. All of a sudden, someone on the other side of the room drops a huge tray of drinks, and our attention |
1:11.7 | swivels over there. |
1:13.3 | That's involuntary attention or compelled attention. |
1:16.8 | And the reason that's so important is it's kind of the whole kernel of both the faculty |
1:23.1 | we have and the problem. |
1:25.5 | When the tray drops and it makes us enormous noise, your head whips |
1:30.6 | around and you notice it before you even get a chance to consciously weigh in. Then the party |
1:35.8 | gets going again, Chris and I keep talking, until someone near us, someone engaged in their |
1:41.4 | own conversation happens to say his name, barely even audibly, |
1:46.3 | but Chris's brain hears it immediately. And to me, it's an example of the particular acuteness of what I |
1:55.9 | call in the book social attention. I mean, first of all, just as a feat of processing, it's kind of crazy that this works because |
2:03.5 | I'm focusing on you in the cocktail party. |
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